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The west isn't guilty for fucking up entire nations just because it drew borders decades ago, ethnic cleansing, genocide, dictatorships are a reality at present because there are "natives" who commit those crimes and atrocities not because the west provide them with arms or because the west had their ancestors 'pick cotton' over a century ago.
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Of course they are guilty … ethnic cleansing, genocide, etc are a result of the West drawing borders decades ago .. How come Indians were able to live in relative harmony until the Brits decided to divide the country into India and Pakistan .. You think the bloodbath that ensued was because of so called western democracy?
And have you forgotten that it is American weapons beign use in Afghanistan to send their sons and daughters home in boxes?
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Moral decadence from the west is based on fact rather than fiction and instead or learning from it 3rd-world countries start thinking of "payback" because of injustices that took place generations ago, to what end ?!
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To no end, but if you oppress people and force them to live according to your rules they will get pissed and at some point they will seek revenge … A few generations is not a long time and if you think people will just forget and forgive then you are mistaken.
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Instead of wining about inproper decisions of the west people should think of all the good it produced in the past 50 years, the people it saved, the science it produced, the technology it developed and the peace it aspired.
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The peace? What peace? The west are the most war hungry people on earth
The East is at least as capable of advances in science and technology
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What is a western ideal ? You mean the human rights act which many countries simply can not live up to because of cultural backwardness, you mean democracy which if understood at all is introduced with violence because the old forces can stand to lose power ? If all countries adhered to the basic western ideals they would still have their cultural heritage but with the best possible guarantee of stability and peace and a much higher standard of living, once the nationalists of theworld get that in their thick skulls we can move on to an new chapter.
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‘cultural backwardness’ .. ermm … so people are culturally backward because they don’t live up to western ideals?
Why should nations aspire to western ideals? These nations are not in the West so why should they conform to what we think is the right way to live? Who are we to impose our way of life on anyone? Like the west is perfect … yeah right!
Those nations who regard themselves as the world police should first take a look in their own back yard and clean up their own shit before rushing into someone eles’es country with the classy western ideals