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Old 11-14-2006, 08:23 PM
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It all depends how many people MS ping via AU each day.

I'm expecting a slow ramp up to mega traffic.

Dabsi's the one one the best position to report changes.
do you have any good news for us Drew?
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:56 PM
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Me also. French, Spanish and Portuguese is 65% of my portfolio.
All the above mentioned are so used in typing without the accent-marks that the I7 won't have much of an effect on them until they slowly change their habits oer time, imho.

OTOH, Arabs will be thrilled that they can now use IE to navigate in their own language, so I believe we'll see traffic increases quicker from the Arabic speaking countries.

I just think it will be a while though. Few months to a year maybe.
(I hope I eat my words, though).

My opinion was always that DNAME aliasing would be the catalyst for IDN success in general.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:08 PM
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Me also. French, Spanish and Portuguese is 65% of my portfolio.
All the above mentioned are so used in typing without the accent-marks that the I7 won't have much of an effect on them until they slowly change their habits oer time, imho.

OTOH, Arabs will be thrilled that they can now use IE to navigate in their own language, so I believe we'll see traffic increases quicker from the Arabic speaking countries.

I just think it will be a while though. Few months to a year maybe.
(I hope I eat my words, though).

My opinion was always that DNAME aliasing would be the catalyst for IDN success in general.
They might be used to typing domains without the accents for a few years, but they've been typing the "proper" way in articles, newspapers, essays, official documents and letters for centuries. We also don't know how many of them type in the "proper" way and can't figure out why the domain doesn't resolve.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:16 PM
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We also don't know how many of them type in the "proper" way and can't figure out why the domain doesn't resolve.
Yes we do. We own some of these these domains and they do resolve. At least most of them
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:22 PM
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We also don't know how many of them type in the "proper" way and can't figure out why the domain doesn't resolve.
Yes we do. We own some of these these domains and they do resolve. At least most of them
I figured that in a few months we should get at least 5% of the traffic that ascii-typo gets:-).
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:31 PM
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They might be used to typing domains without the accents for a few years, but they've been typing the "proper" way in articles, newspapers, essays, official documents and letters for centuries.
Yes, but typing incorrectly on the internet for the past ten years is something that is ingrained in the brain and the switch is always long and difficult.

People here look at me in amazement when I tell them that they don't need to type the "www" before the domain in order to go to a site. They don't get it. It will take sometime before they switch from "Greeklish" (= phonetic Greek with Latin characters) to typing Greek when using the net.
Continuing on the Greek market (I know: it's small, net un-savvy and not representative of other markets), most of the domains with traffic are the unaccented versions of the name. Why? too lazy to use the accents, save time, who cares since Google will bring up the same results wether you use the accent or not, etc.



Why would the French do anything different? They get what they want without the accent. Why switch now? Because they have IE7?
Eventually, when they start figuring out that there is different content on the accented version of a keyword, coupled with media awareness and marketing they will switch.
I just think this WILL take sometime.

I suppose other cultures with Latin based Alphabets will have a similar problem to overcome...
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:36 PM
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They might be used to typing domains without the accents for a few years, but they've been typing the "proper" way in articles, newspapers, essays, official documents and letters for centuries.
Yes, but typing incorrectly on the internet for the past ten years is something that is ingrained in the brain and the switch is always long and difficult.

People here look at me in amazement when I tell them that they don't need to type the "www" before the domain in order to go to a site. They don't get it. It will take sometime before they switch from "Greeklish" (= phonetic Greek with Latin characters) to typing Greek when using the net.
Continuing on the Greek market (I know: it's small, net un-savvy and not representative of other markets), most of the domains with traffic are the unaccented versions of the name. Why? too lazy to use the accents, save time, who cares since Google will bring up the same results wether you use the accent or not, etc.



Why would the French do anything different? They get what they want without the accent. Why switch now? Because they have IE7?
Eventually, when they start figuring out that there is different content on the accented version of a keyword, coupled with media awareness and marketing they will switch.
I just think this WILL take sometime.

I suppose other cultures with Latin based Alphabets will have a similar problem to overcome...
True. It won't happen overnight. But when the traffic starts kicking in, what's the hurry :-)?
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:53 PM
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... But when the traffic starts kicking in, what's the hurry :-)?
No, no hurry at all from my end
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I figured that in a few months we should get at least 5% of the traffic that ascii-typo gets:-).
Even though discussed before...any somewhat "educated guess" anyone has for the amount of traffic multiple we can excpect in compare to today's numbers? even in 1year

today times 100 is too optimistic?
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:57 PM
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Explorer wrote:
I figured that in a few months we should get at least 5% of the traffic that ascii-typo gets:-).
Even though discussed before...any somewhat "educated guess" anyone has for the amount of traffic multiple we can excpect in compare to today's numbers? even in 1year

today times 100 is too optimistic?
It really depends on the language and DNAME, I think.
A year from now 100x for French would be too optimistic, but for Japanese would not, I think.
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