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Old 12-01-2006, 03:49 PM
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It also means that they will make .gongsi seperate from .com permanent. Since CNNIC seems to oversee the 3rd party organization selling them. They aren't going to change anything. the .chinese characters representing their version of .com are here to stay as mentioned years ago.
China can do what they like under the .CN extension. They cannot do anything at the top level or indeed anything anywhere else without either splitting the root, which they have committed not to do, or without getting ICANN agreement. Frankly, I have no strong feelings on the matter. If it don't resolve to the dot Com registry it isn't dot com.
whats to think in a few years that people in china will not want .gongsi over .com due to the "coolness" factor?

Stuff can change. One year something can be hot and the next year it will be triumped by the opponent.

.info used to suck. Now it's gonna beat .net soon
If that actually happens, I am going to have to start taking a few of the DNF crowd seriously and treat them with respect.

It is not impossible that dot com could be outbranded in certain locations in the World. Dot com will be aliased and whatever it is aliased to is going to be pretty cool. It could yet be Gongsi, which may or may not be the Coolest choice. If DNAME aliasing is introduced there will be a Myriad of TLDs turn up in Chinese Unicode. Dot CN is the biggest competitor at the moment. If CNNIC choose to dilute the moment built up by dot CN then that is likely to reinforce dot Com not undermine it.

ICANN has yet to rule on the matter and there Intellectual Property Right issues to resolve here.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:22 PM
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I think you guys are flying off on a tangent.

My guess is that it's an announcement releted to the latest variant character work by the IETF.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4713
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China can do what they like under the .CN extension. They cannot do anything at the top level or indeed anything anywhere else without either splitting the root, which they have committed not to do, or without getting ICANN agreement. Frankly, I have no strong feelings on the matter. If it don't resolve to the dot Com registry it isn't dot com.
whats to think in a few years that people in china will not want .gongsi over .com due to the "coolness" factor?

Stuff can change. One year something can be hot and the next year it will be triumped by the opponent.

.info used to suck. Now it's gonna beat .net soon
If that actually happens, I am going to have to start taking a few of the DNF crowd seriously and treat them with respect.

It is not impossible that dot com could be outbranded in certain locations in the World. Dot com will be aliased and whatever it is aliased to is going to be pretty cool. It could yet be Gongsi, which may or may not be the Coolest choice. If DNAME aliasing is introduced there will be a Myriad of TLDs turn up in Chinese Unicode. Dot CN is the biggest competitor at the moment. If CNNIC choose to dilute the moment built up by dot CN then that is likely to reinforce dot Com not undermine it.

ICANN has yet to rule on the matter and there Intellectual Property Right issues to resolve here.
well the .com contract was approved by the DoC. 7% yearly increases of .com pricing. I also believe that ICANN will increase their .25 to .50 fee per registration. Expect registration fees to increase greatly over the next few years. Why on earth would CNNIC let dname occur now? The whole registry fee which is increasing will go to Versign. What part will go to CNNIC or into the chinese governments pockets? The DoC loves it. Versign will double their revenue and the treasury will earn more in taxes. It's a win for the U.S. government.

There has to be a win win situation. Now the DoC just let the fuse now on internet governmence.
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:14 PM
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whats to think in a few years that people in china will not want .gongsi over .com due to the "coolness" factor?

Stuff can change. One year something can be hot and the next year it will be triumped by the opponent.

.info used to suck. Now it's gonna beat .net soon
If that actually happens, I am going to have to start taking a few of the DNF crowd seriously and treat them with respect.

It is not impossible that dot com could be outbranded in certain locations in the World. Dot com will be aliased and whatever it is aliased to is going to be pretty cool. It could yet be Gongsi, which may or may not be the Coolest choice. If DNAME aliasing is introduced there will be a Myriad of TLDs turn up in Chinese Unicode. Dot CN is the biggest competitor at the moment. If CNNIC choose to dilute the moment built up by dot CN then that is likely to reinforce dot Com not undermine it.

ICANN has yet to rule on the matter and there Intellectual Property Right issues to resolve here.
well the .com contract was approved by the DoC. 7% yearly increases of .com pricing. I also believe that ICANN will increase their .25 to .50 fee per registration. Expect registration fees to increase greatly over the next few years. Why on earth would CNNIC let dname occur now? The whole registry fee which is increasing will go to Versign. What part will go to CNNIC or into the chinese governments pockets? The DoC loves it. Versign will double their revenue and the treasury will earn more in taxes. It's a win for the U.S. government.

There has to be a win win situation. Now the DoC just let the fuse now on internet governmence.
I think the DoC approval was with a Caviat on pricing.

http://dnjournal.com/lowdown.htm
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:34 AM
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I think the DoC approval was with a Caviat on pricing.

http://dnjournal.com/lowdown.htm
Wrong
We lost on pricing. Versign has won.


It is the .net / .org / .info contracts that have the new upper limit of pricing. The .com contract already had the 7% per year (or whatever the percentage is) increase. DoC modified other stuff.
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