Will all domain be worth at least something?

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Giant

I started my computer science major in 1976, and I retired from the technical world in 1998. Life is much better if you don't have to work with computers....

I spend much of my day looking at Corba Marshall. You could read War and Peace waiting for our database system to do something.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by Giant

I have hired technical people for my work for many years, I haven't seen any of them brag in front of me that they know what a name server is :-). I hire experts, not newbies.

You are simply not going to bait me into a battle of wits with an unarmed person unless you are paying me for my time.

I will tell you this: I've managed larger networks than you've ever dreamed of. No, I'm not going to post my CV for you because I simply don't care about your opinion.

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[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

You are simply not going to bait me into a battle of wits with an unarmed person unless you are paying me for my time.

I will tell you this: I've managed larger networks than you've ever dreamed of. No, I'm not going to post my CV for you because I simply don't care about your opinion.

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Intellectually unarmed or not, Giant has and will make more money out IDN than all but a few. You are not even in the running. This guy had most of his portfolio together before I even got started, and unlike some, he never bottled out because nobody else believed.

[Giant]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

I will tell you this: I've managed larger networks than you've ever dreamed of.

Yes, large networks that are hosted on virtual servers sharing a single IP with other 2000 park domains :-).

Anyway, it's good to hear you have a job and get paid, even though you stay in forums day and night trying to lure people to your site and seizing every opportunity to put people down and show off what you know.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by Giant

Yes, large networks that are hosted on virtual servers sharing a single IP with other 2000 park domains :-).

That's a hobby, child's play. You really have no idea what I've been doing or how long I've been doing it. You probably think I'm half your age. Assumptions really won't serve you very well.

Also, a server with a bunch of websites isn't a network. You really do need to go and read up on the basics. You know just enough of the terminology now to make yourself look really stupid when you use it to try an assert some form of experience and knowledge.

Joe, your behavior and tactics remind me of a 5 year old, really.

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[touchring]

Darn, i hope you guys are not debating who is older.

Back to the topic of whether domains are worth something.

Domains are worth something "significant" only if end users will buy them. I pointed out that for latins, the idn by itself is not a whole domain to the end user.

An end user will have to acquire both the idn and the ascii version - this is not a choice. The end user MUST HAVE both version. Mini-site made for Google aside, no end user will invest serious money in advertising for an IDN without acquiring the ASCII equivalent.

Latins get good traffic by being look alike and from people looking for the ascii version (i can say 95% of latin traffic come from people looking for the ASCII website - 95% of the traffic to Sociétés.com are people looking societe.com), but this is a double edged sword - likewise, traffic to an idn can be lost to the ascii.

Some food for thought.

[Rubber Duck]

Well, this and the fact the good names had gone is why the Duck didn't really go there in the first place.

Originally Posted by touchring

Darn, i hope you guys are not debating who is older.

Back to the topic of whether domains are worth something.

Domains are worth something "significant" only if end users will buy them. I pointed out that for latins, the idn by itself is not a whole domain to the end user.

An end user will have to acquire both the idn and the ascii version - this is not a choice. The end user MUST HAVE both version. Mini-site made for Google aside, no end user will invest serious money in advertising for an IDN without acquiring the ASCII equivalent.

Latins get good traffic by being look alike and from people looking for the ascii version (i can say 95% of latin traffic come from people looking for the ASCII website - 95% of the traffic to Sociétés.com are people looking societe.com), but this is a double edged sword - likewise, traffic to an idn can be lost to the ascii.

Some food for thought.

[Giant]

Originally Posted by touchring

Darn, i hope you guys are not debating who is older.

What else can you expect from MJ?

[Giant]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

Also, a server with a bunch of websites isn't a network. You really do need to go and read up on the basics.
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If you want to become a professional, you shouldn't carry your textbook with you all the time. No need to worry what is a network or what is not, just build one!

Let me show you how you can own such a "large network" that nobody can even "dreamed of".

-Suppose you want to offer Michael Jackson's music download service for the whole world.
-Suppose you know 100 domainers located in 100 different countries, and each of them owns a server hosting 2,000 park domains.
-Suppose they don't mind your personality and agree to create a virtual server for you from their servers sharing same IPs.

Now, create 100 websites with 100 different languages, one for each of your virtual servers. Network them together and there you go, you have a "large network".

You can also use this "network" to prove RD wrong that creating websites or networks will not need an IP at all.

Now please tell me, which textbook told you the network "hosted on virtual servers (around the world) sharing a single IP with other 2000 park domains" is not a network.

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Obviously, whether or not more and more domains being registered and used will make IPs become a scarce resource depends who you're talking to.

Your view: No, because thousands of your sites in the "Name Based Virtual Hosting" don't require any IP.

My view: Yes, even my small sites use 2 to 10 IPs easily. I use a different server to broadcast video stuff, other servers handdle different jobs. Mind you, serious websites own their own name servers, many use more than 2.

Although domain name owners can rent nameservers (limited sevice) from their Registrars to satisfy the registration requirement without paying extra, still many business don't want their nameservers to be controlled by someone else for many reasons, security reason is one of them.

Originally Posted by jacksonm

That's a hobby, child's play. You really have no idea what I've been doing or how long I've been doing it. You probably think I'm half your age. Assumptions really won't serve you very well.

I am glad you finally acknowledge that "large network" built on "virtual" servers (and therefore park domains in "Virtual" Hosting too) without requiring IPs is "child's play" and thus your view weighs not much.

RD's question involves real IPs (not virtual IPs), it should be answered by people in the real world doing real business using real IPs. You are a domain speculator living in virtual world using non-real IPs, your view is not a reflection of the true reality.

So, let's declare the winner of this debate .... Rubber Duck!

[markits]

Giant,

I was once considering buying off dopa parking company. Since you are in China, perhaps you should investigate the possibility of acquiring it. It will be an ideal company for you to own.